Glad the training finally worked bc it was getting tedious to call search and rescue every time you left the house and forgot how to return. Now let’s consider training you to conjugate

lol I did not know and in retrospect I am not surprised

To be clear I think they would probably also merit the esteem of society, if society esteems such things, but that’s not what self actualization is about 😛

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Whether that was an informed choice for them to make or fair for God to let them make that choice we will leave aside.

which is no longer the world of Eden where you get to not know and not suffer the knowledge of KNOWING. God could have stopped it and was stopping it this whole time but Mankind decided they wanted to KNOW for themselves, so God was like "Ok, your choice."

well that means you've chosen the version of the world where all the Good and Evil actually plays out for you to Know about. God already knows, but YOU don't know, and according to him you've (Eve has) chosen to know, which means he in his omnipotence gives you the world of knowing you chose,

But see there's Knowing in the abstract and there's Knowing through direct emotion-laden experience (and Knowing Biblically, ahem). And seems like this Tree of Knowing was about Knowing through experience. And once you eat of the "I wanna know Good from Evil through experience" tree,

Since no people are getting born to then go do Evil (or Good) things, how is Eve supposed to Know Good from Evil? Maybe God coulda set up a lesson plan/book club and taught about Good and Evil as abstract concepts?

(or Hell I guess, if turns out they would have been Bad Evil Baddies). But then Eve is like "Hey I wanna eat from the Tree of Knowledge." Now there's different kinds of knowing, there's knowing how to unclog a toilet, there's knowing how to walk, and there's knowing Good from Evil.

Ok, but see here's a weird loophole scenario: Suppose back in Eden, God is doing exactly that, not letting any babies come into existence from Adam and Eve bc he already knows what Bad shit's gonna happen to them/their descendants. Instead they just skip existence/suffering and go straight to Heaven

And I guess accept vs change could be reframed as homeostasis/safety vs hedonic thrill/risk

Also insert asterisks on the mommy and daddy issues bc I don’t really believe one gender is inherently more accepting or challenging than the other.