As I said doesn't have to be flashy/ over developed. I get minimalist appeal... but current not even most intuitive ui: doesn't necessarily have to be dated & ugly.
Come on, it's way past time for modern refresh

As for spam, was actually landing efforts/ acknowledged it's a hard problem

Fighting scam is hard: all annoyed no matter what & some get through. I like initiative.

now if only you could give ui same enthusiasm 🤣. Come on man, way passed due to hire a -good- designer... doesn't have to be fancy/flashy gfx, just more modern. Great stuff but no one uses cl because of the ui

Interesting, I'm gonna have to look up this kate bush woman? Was she like girl George Michael or prince? Or more like a Cindy Lauper or Tina turner?

I like & respect your take but more aligned w/ broad definition from ai below (ugh, I know AI 🤣): build transparently biz or product or project. Even fun pet projects can become a biz: for example b2 became WordPress
It's how I use it: customer feedback, experienced experts thoughts or just randos

True to a point. Sometimes it's just fun to build just to build it (like laravel). Sometimes I like to build things just for the challenge or because I find it useful. Other times, 1st draft not always where you're headed, public=feedback. I agree though, strategy is useful to help succeed

hopefully w/ no passwords/ credential either 🤣 (seen it happen more than I would have liked)