Ian is the Priest-King of the Sacred Grove at Nemi
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High-Church Pentecostal. Presbyterian (PCUSA) Minister. UChicago MAPH 16, MA Div 21. 19/20C History of Religions. Great Prairie State Enjoyer (and Loyalist to the Khan of Springfield). Dungeon Master. Yasuki Courtier. On the Spectrum. #MessiaenIsLove
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Them: The words מלאך and αγγελος don’t really mean ‘angel.’
Me: That’s right.
Them: We must demyth—
Me: There’s a wide variety of spiritual beings in the universe, including, but not limited to, angels, demons, devils, powers, principalities, airish beasts, thrones, heavenly f
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
I felt immeasurably privileged today as I served in parts of my pastoral office — to be with people in moments of dire need, of spiritual and personal crisis, to offer them to God in prayer, to share God with them in Sacrament — it’s not flashy or exciting, but it’s beautiful, and it’s worth it
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
ironically, we are in need of both an awakening from our revival-addicted forms of religion, and a renewal of forms rooted in non-charismatic (not speaking of the Gifts, but of powerful, persuasive leaders, etc) practices of faith — that is, institutional faith that cares across all stages of life
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
this is not, to be clear, the necessary logic of revivalism, per se, but it is what happens when revivalism in America has transitioned from “new religious experience” into “good, old-timey religion” — which means many use revival as an object of nostalgia, devoid of any real spiritual awakening
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
a friend recently pointed out that the true division in modern Protestantism isn’t on the Modernist / Fundamentalist debate but actually, more primordially, the Old Side / New Side debate — and it turns out the New Side (revivalism) has been fully co-opted by reactionary thought and practice
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
Better yet: Herman Melville’s Moby Dick, set in Byzantium
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karanslade.bsky.social
Broke: young people like conservative Christianity

Woke: young people like progressive Christianity

Bespoke: The Book of Common Prayer 1979 of the Episcopal Church represents conservative Christianity in every way that matters (sacraments, Creed), and progressive young people like it
nytimes.com
In @nytopinion.nytimes.com

Many Gen-Zers “bring a new attitude to the combination of faith and politics, and many see politics as a matter of spiritual warfare,” writes Daniel K. Williams, a historian of American religion and politics.
Opinion | Why So Many Gen Z-ers Are Drawn to Conservative Christianity
And what that might mean for the future of American politics.
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poetinbabylon.bsky.social
I think this is one of those things where the Rules might be the same, but the Culture is very different between these two denominations!
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
that’s what the canons say… … yes… … but… …
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
(I had to add the charismatic narcissists because they seem to be the folks who are most capable of gaming the current system to their benefit. And… … that sucks!!!!)
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
Meanwhile, every Methodist minister I meet is either a charismatic narcissist who does whatever they want anyways, OR is bulldozed by congregations with completely lopsided structures of authority such that so little can happen.

One understands why folks become nondenom pastors in such situations!
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
The local Episcopal priest teases me because I have no “final say” but hey hey hey I actually *do* have explicit domain over the teaching, preaching, and worship of the church — I just have to do politics for the rest. (Which is fitting for Presbyterian polity, anyways!)
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
it drove me crazy when I was a young person in that church, it drives me crazy now being friends with all the Methodist ministers in town 😔😔😔
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
That thing you said the other day about Methodist paperwork reminded me of all the great Methodist ministers I’ve met in my life (I grew up UMC!) whose ministry was constantly hamstrung by odd power-arrangements from BOTH the bureaucracy and the congregational levels AT THE SAME TIME 😬😬😬
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jakeall.bsky.social
All my literary opinions are actually correct and fully hinged. AMA.
rachelfeder.bsky.social
Tell me your most unhinged literary opinion, as a little treat
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
EXACTLY. That’s exactly what I hear. And that’s exactly the kind of practices you see dying churches enact.

It’s not like palliative care isn’t an important practice too — (it’s one that emerges from our values!), it’s just that if you found a hospital that only offered palliative care, uh… … ….
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
a LOT comes down to “what is the relationship between human beings and the Sacrament” in the Christian context — but even then, the Reformed camp in Anglicanism still uses priest even while their theology doesn’t require it!
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
The collar was invented by a Church of Scotland (Presbyterian) minister too!
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
yeah, essentially this is my view too (both for obvious reasons and also for the reasons that Jacques Derrida provides too)
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I believe both that physical reality exists and that we cannot perceive it accurately, and that these things are *ultimately* reconcilable, but the belief in the reconciliation truly is based on faith
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
FWIW, I blame H., because she’s napping two hours too.
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
I’ve reached the “napping for two hours after work” stage of the fall.
poetinbabylon.bsky.social
And also that your typical workman in the 10s and 20s wasn’t necessarily unawares of classical references either — that is, after all, why the Loebs are designed the size they are: to fit in a breast pocket!!