José Carlos Souto (@jcsouto)
@jcsouto.bsky.social
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Médico, autor do livro Uma Dieta Além da Moda; apreciador de Brahms, Bach, Kurt Atterberg e coisas ainda mais estranhas; fã de Carl Sagan desde criancinha
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gidmk.bsky.social
This is a fascinating story.

A Lebanese team published a study showing massive benefits for apple cider vinegar in 2024. People immediately noticed it was problematic, and complained.

BMJ asked the authors for the data, and they sent it through. The study has just been retracted and WOW 1/n
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gidmk.bsky.social
10/n Regardless, all of this fuss and noise about soft drinks and depression comes from a cross-sectional study that only assessed soft drink consumption at one time point and did not follow-up patients at all.

Which is absurd.
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gidmk.bsky.social
4/n This is straightforwardly meaningless scientifically. It was a cross-sectional survey of food consumption with some gut microbiome assessment thrown in. According to their methods, the only covariates included in the logistic model here were age and sex.
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gidmk.bsky.social
Science can be such a headache sometimes.

This study has hit the headlines because the authors claim that it shows that soft drinks cause people to be depressed by negatively impacting their gut microbiome.

Several BIG issues with this 1/n
jcsouto.bsky.social
Como escrevi na semana passada, esse estudo altamente problemático jamais permitiria sugerir que adoçantes em geral sejam deletérios para o cérebro, muito menos adoçantes específicos.

A reprodução totalmente acrítica pela mídia é algo que precisa ser repensado
sophieehill.bsky.social
Groundbreaking! @gidmk.bsky.social and @slate.com prove that you can cover an academic study by actually *reading* it, not just regurgitating every breathless bullet point from the press release...

This is what science journalism should look like 👇

slate.com/technology/2...
Scientists Tested the Link Between Artificial Sweetener and Cognitive Decline. Here’s What You Need to Know.
Scientists tested for links between artificial sweeteners and cognitive decline.
slate.com
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sophieehill.bsky.social
Groundbreaking! @gidmk.bsky.social and @slate.com prove that you can cover an academic study by actually *reading* it, not just regurgitating every breathless bullet point from the press release...

This is what science journalism should look like 👇

slate.com/technology/2...
Scientists Tested the Link Between Artificial Sweetener and Cognitive Decline. Here’s What You Need to Know.
Scientists tested for links between artificial sweeteners and cognitive decline.
slate.com
jcsouto.bsky.social
Falei isso hoje de manhã aqui em casa!
jcsouto.bsky.social
O Fux está inocentando o Paulo Sérgio porque o Paulo Sérgio tentou demover Jair de dar um golpe. Mas ele acabou de inocentar o Jair de golpe 🤷

É o golpe de Schrödinger
jcsouto.bsky.social
@npto.bsky.social explicou a teoria de Fux ainda em 2023 na Folha
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fperrywilson.bsky.social
We've all had this conversation before:

"Dude, we both agree this is red... but how do I know what I see as red is what you see as red? Maybe you see red as I see blue."

Mind blown lol.

But we finally have some research that sheds light (and color) on the issue. (Thread)
jcsouto.bsky.social
O artigo sobre adoçantes e declínio cognitivo, além dos problemas que já citei ontem aqui e no último episódio do podcast Comida sem Filtro, está repleto de erros estatísticos, se vê nesse fio
sophieehill.bsky.social
As noted by @carlmc.bsky.social, one odd pattern in these results is that ALL the estimates and confidence interval bounds are multiples of 0.008

What could explain that? 🤔
eTable 6 with all the multiples of 0.008 highlighted in red
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carlmc.bsky.social
It’s really worrying that it takes a political scientist to point out all these irregularities in a paper that is picked up to such an extent by the press — reviewers, science editors, anyone listening? Anyone bothered to ask for the underlying data & code?
sophieehill.bsky.social
As noted by @carlmc.bsky.social, one odd pattern in these results is that ALL the estimates and confidence interval bounds are multiples of 0.008

What could explain that? 🤔
eTable 6 with all the multiples of 0.008 highlighted in red
jcsouto.bsky.social
Smarter people than me found worrisome mistakes: bsky.app/profile/soph...
sophieehill.bsky.social
In eTable 6, we have the same estimate and confidence interval.

And now we also get a p-value, that is obviously inconsistent with the reported confidence interval!

(A 95% CI that almost crosses 0 should have a p-value close to but just below 0.05)
jcsouto.bsky.social
14/
👉 Conclusion:📌

It makes no sense to claim that 7 different molecules all cause the same brain damage just because they’re sweet.

The study does not show causality, nor clinical relevance.

The tagatose debacle shows the findings are just statistical noise and confounding by indication
jcsouto.bsky.social
13/
👉 In the end, the study proves only one thing:
When you cross FFQs with food composition tables and dozens of unadjusted tests, you can “find” an association between any molecule and any outcome.🤯
Even a molecule that nobody actually consumed. Tooth Fairy science + Schrödinger's sweetener