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I was surprised at how well he did with it! It could have been great.
December 3, 2025 at 4:15 AM
I was surprised at how well he did with it! It could have been great.
I'm always prepared for an adaptation to have to make changes but this felt incredibly sloppy.
December 3, 2025 at 1:45 AM
I'm always prepared for an adaptation to have to make changes but this felt incredibly sloppy.
Well. Cannot recommend if you loved the books. Disappointing.
December 3, 2025 at 1:29 AM
Well. Cannot recommend if you loved the books. Disappointing.
Oh absolutely not.
I'm not going to do spoilers but they fully changed the entire mystery conclusion. Why would you do that.
Ugh.
Unrelated but these writers do not respect Joyce as a character at all and it's pissing me off at this point.
I'm not going to do spoilers but they fully changed the entire mystery conclusion. Why would you do that.
Ugh.
Unrelated but these writers do not respect Joyce as a character at all and it's pissing me off at this point.
December 3, 2025 at 12:50 AM
Oh absolutely not.
I'm not going to do spoilers but they fully changed the entire mystery conclusion. Why would you do that.
Ugh.
Unrelated but these writers do not respect Joyce as a character at all and it's pissing me off at this point.
I'm not going to do spoilers but they fully changed the entire mystery conclusion. Why would you do that.
Ugh.
Unrelated but these writers do not respect Joyce as a character at all and it's pissing me off at this point.
Ohhhh no. No no no.
Why the fuck would they change the plot this much.
This is so unnecessary. And it's a worse plot!
Ugh I hate it.
Why the fuck would they change the plot this much.
This is so unnecessary. And it's a worse plot!
Ugh I hate it.
December 3, 2025 at 12:45 AM
Ohhhh no. No no no.
Why the fuck would they change the plot this much.
This is so unnecessary. And it's a worse plot!
Ugh I hate it.
Why the fuck would they change the plot this much.
This is so unnecessary. And it's a worse plot!
Ugh I hate it.
I kind of wish it was worse. It's ... fine. But with this cast it could have been brilliant. All the potential in the world.
I'm going to have to re-read the books after this and think of what might have been.
I'm going to have to re-read the books after this and think of what might have been.
December 3, 2025 at 12:28 AM
I kind of wish it was worse. It's ... fine. But with this cast it could have been brilliant. All the potential in the world.
I'm going to have to re-read the books after this and think of what might have been.
I'm going to have to re-read the books after this and think of what might have been.
The casting director did their damn job. All of these actors would have been brilliant at depicting those characters. The script isn't showing those characters, though. Ibrahim and Ron are perhaps closest. Bogdan and Jason, no. Chris and Donna, no. Elizabeth and Joyce, no. They're oversimplified.
December 3, 2025 at 12:26 AM
The casting director did their damn job. All of these actors would have been brilliant at depicting those characters. The script isn't showing those characters, though. Ibrahim and Ron are perhaps closest. Bogdan and Jason, no. Chris and Donna, no. Elizabeth and Joyce, no. They're oversimplified.
The books have this charm. Everyone is so human and funny and flawed and capable, all in different ways. It's such an achievement to make six central characters all of those things, and I feel like whoever wrote the script for this didn't understand what made the books good.
December 3, 2025 at 12:24 AM
The books have this charm. Everyone is so human and funny and flawed and capable, all in different ways. It's such an achievement to make six central characters all of those things, and I feel like whoever wrote the script for this didn't understand what made the books good.
It's so weird to see what they cut and what they made a huge effort to keep. Someone was weirdly attached to the alpacas, for example, but I feel like the writers are strangely uninclined to spend time with Joyce, who comprises our POV half the time in the books.
December 3, 2025 at 12:15 AM
It's so weird to see what they cut and what they made a huge effort to keep. Someone was weirdly attached to the alpacas, for example, but I feel like the writers are strangely uninclined to spend time with Joyce, who comprises our POV half the time in the books.
Ohhh. No. We just introduced a plot twist that is directly antithetical to the way these characters were written and is unnecessary for the plot. Extra interpersonal drama for no reason. Why? The plot is full of plenty of drama already!
December 3, 2025 at 12:07 AM
Ohhh. No. We just introduced a plot twist that is directly antithetical to the way these characters were written and is unnecessary for the plot. Extra interpersonal drama for no reason. Why? The plot is full of plenty of drama already!
They also made room to add a whole new character who isn't in the books and give her a remarkable amount of screen time considering how fast we're moving through establishing the actual main characters.
December 2, 2025 at 11:59 PM
They also made room to add a whole new character who isn't in the books and give her a remarkable amount of screen time considering how fast we're moving through establishing the actual main characters.
Elizabeth also feels quite aggressive and unsubtle. None of the finesse she has in the books. A waste of Helen Mirren, really.
December 2, 2025 at 11:54 PM
Elizabeth also feels quite aggressive and unsubtle. None of the finesse she has in the books. A waste of Helen Mirren, really.
I feel like they couldn't decide to make Chris and Donna bumbling or competent, so they just take it in turns to do both.
It's one thing for a competent character to be caught in an awkward situation and stumble a bit but it's like, cartoon bumbling and then super on it. Feels inconsistent.
It's one thing for a competent character to be caught in an awkward situation and stumble a bit but it's like, cartoon bumbling and then super on it. Feels inconsistent.
December 2, 2025 at 11:52 PM
I feel like they couldn't decide to make Chris and Donna bumbling or competent, so they just take it in turns to do both.
It's one thing for a competent character to be caught in an awkward situation and stumble a bit but it's like, cartoon bumbling and then super on it. Feels inconsistent.
It's one thing for a competent character to be caught in an awkward situation and stumble a bit but it's like, cartoon bumbling and then super on it. Feels inconsistent.
I feel STRESSED trying to keep up and I already know what the plot is!
December 2, 2025 at 11:22 PM
I feel STRESSED trying to keep up and I already know what the plot is!
It's such an incredible cast. There could have been so much more room for them to ACT. Instead we're trying to cover ground as fast as possible.
It feels ... idk. Netflixy, I suppose. Just give the people what they want to see. Make sure to cram it all in for minimal budget.
It feels ... idk. Netflixy, I suppose. Just give the people what they want to see. Make sure to cram it all in for minimal budget.
December 2, 2025 at 11:22 PM
It's such an incredible cast. There could have been so much more room for them to ACT. Instead we're trying to cover ground as fast as possible.
It feels ... idk. Netflixy, I suppose. Just give the people what they want to see. Make sure to cram it all in for minimal budget.
It feels ... idk. Netflixy, I suppose. Just give the people what they want to see. Make sure to cram it all in for minimal budget.
I have some minor nitpicks about what's been changed plotwise but I get that stuff needs to be simplified for a film medium.
I don't care for what they've done to Donna. She comes off as bumbling, which she absolutely isn't, and we don't get her simmering frustration at all.
I don't care for what they've done to Donna. She comes off as bumbling, which she absolutely isn't, and we don't get her simmering frustration at all.
December 2, 2025 at 11:20 PM
I have some minor nitpicks about what's been changed plotwise but I get that stuff needs to be simplified for a film medium.
I don't care for what they've done to Donna. She comes off as bumbling, which she absolutely isn't, and we don't get her simmering frustration at all.
I don't care for what they've done to Donna. She comes off as bumbling, which she absolutely isn't, and we don't get her simmering frustration at all.
I just wish they'd done, like, maybe an 8 episode show. It needs more time to breathe. The first HOUR should have covered meeting Joyce, introducing her to the club and getting her settled in, and Ventham's fight with Curran, Bogdan's tangential involvement. Fin.
December 2, 2025 at 11:19 PM
I just wish they'd done, like, maybe an 8 episode show. It needs more time to breathe. The first HOUR should have covered meeting Joyce, introducing her to the club and getting her settled in, and Ventham's fight with Curran, Bogdan's tangential involvement. Fin.
Oh and we also covered what's up with Elizabeth, Stephen, and Penny. We've met Jason. We've met Bogdan. We've met Father Mackie (barely, but still). If I hadn't read the books I'd be completely lost about what I'm supposed to be paying attention to and who everyone is.
December 2, 2025 at 11:17 PM
Oh and we also covered what's up with Elizabeth, Stephen, and Penny. We've met Jason. We've met Bogdan. We've met Father Mackie (barely, but still). If I hadn't read the books I'd be completely lost about what I'm supposed to be paying attention to and who everyone is.
In the space of what is theoretically maybe two days? We've introduced Joyce as brand new to Coopers Chase and the Thursday Murder Club, covered Ventham wanting to sell Coopers Chase, introduced Donna, had Ventham/Curry's fight, and held a meeting to object to Ventham's plans. It's too fast.
December 2, 2025 at 11:15 PM
In the space of what is theoretically maybe two days? We've introduced Joyce as brand new to Coopers Chase and the Thursday Murder Club, covered Ventham wanting to sell Coopers Chase, introduced Donna, had Ventham/Curry's fight, and held a meeting to object to Ventham's plans. It's too fast.
I'm not proud but I am, at least, sort of fed.
December 2, 2025 at 10:00 PM
I'm not proud but I am, at least, sort of fed.