Nat Dyer
@natjdyer.bsky.social
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My book RICARDO’S DREAM - a 'simply brilliant' critique of mainstream economics - came out in Nov '24. Fellow of Schumacher Institute. Formerly with Global Witness & PEP. www.natdyer.com
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Disagree. That's just one mode of science. Much of science is progressed through long, patient observation of facts and a disinclination to fit phenomena into neat boxes too soon.
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Perhaps this from @haugejostein.bsky.social helps provide an answer - it's just an extension of the same narrow, technocratic, 'physics-envy' attitude that dominates econ
'Far too many economists are concerned with how a change in measured variable X affects measured variable Y rather than asking normative, important questions such as: Is capitalism preferable to socialism? What are the global consequences of China’s rise in the world economy? What are the limits of looking at climate change purely through the lens of market failures? In fact, I’ve met many economists who say that they think economics is a ‘hard science’ that should be unconcerned with these types of questions. Both Adam Smith and Karl Marx, two of the most important figures in classical economics, would turn in their graves if they heard this. Despite their political differences, these two scholars approached economics in a similar way. They both understood that economics is shaped by human values, social norms, and ideologies. According to Smith and Marx, to be an economist is also to be a philosopher.'
natjdyer.bsky.social
I might write something about this kind of comment (left on @unlearnecon.bsky.social recent video).

I see no value at all in 'proving' in a perfectly contextless world that countries A & B could benefit form trading X & Y.

What makes anyone think this logic then maps onto reality?
Comment that reads: 'I understand that the example of England and Portugal maybe only worked because of the slaves and the gold, that doesn't matter for the sake of the argument, as well as the moral value of that episode. You can change the names of the countries for fictional ones, and change the products for letters like product A and B. for the argument you are making in this video you have to prove mathematically that the theorem doesn't work. And if the perfect scenario in which it work is unattainable, you have to explain why it will always be unattainable and then put the example in numbers if you don't do that, then, as you said you don't understand the theorem of comparative advantage. You really don't get this or in reality you really are not interested with anything else but to prove your point even if it rests on flawed logic?'
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Me talking about David Ricardo & comparative advantage on the excellent @pitchforkeconomics.bsky.social pod
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“Free trade is always a win-win!”

Except… Ricardo’s famous example leaves out the exploitation, slavery, and mountains of stolen Brazilian gold that made it work.

Listen to the full episode here: buff.ly/jQUTct6
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unlearnecon.bsky.social
THIS IS NOT A DRILL! My actual book launch event - which is only 6 months late - is at LSE October 13th, you can sign up here:

www.lse.ac.uk/events/why-w...
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Good video essay from @unlearnecon.bsky.social riffing on Ricardo’s Dream, about politics & power relations that exist alongside “free” trade and profoundly shape commerce. And the recent, mysterious “rediscovery” 🙄 of this fact by previously dominant states.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsOY...
The Death of Free Trade
YouTube video by Unlearning Economics
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natjdyer.bsky.social
I've listened to a lot of Pitchfork Economics over the years so it was a real pleasure to be a guest on the show.

Listen here: buff.ly/jQUTct6
pitchforkeconomics.bsky.social
David Ricardo’s math looked beautiful on paper. The real-world outcome? Exploitation, colonialism, and hollowed-out economies. In the second episode of our trade series, Nick & Goldy talk to @natjdyer.bsky.social about his book Ricardo’s Dream.

🎧Listen here: buff.ly/jQUTct6
natjdyer.bsky.social
Thanks so much for having me on the show, Goldy! The team did an excellent job on the edit too. I've been away but will give this a boost now
natjdyer.bsky.social
I had to deleted Bluesky app from my phone again... just get too sucked in otherwise & it's not great for productivty or my mood.
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Good to see this out!
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samfr.bsky.social
All political tribes can be hypocritical but the right's current level of hypocrisy on free speech is deliberate. It's an assertion of power not a blindspot.
natjdyer.bsky.social
I’m not brilliant at social media but that’s a strange response. I actually referred to two other peoples’ books above & I’ve consistently tried to answer you constructively 🤷‍♂️
natjdyer.bsky.social
I’m struggling to see this as a genuine engagement, but I’ll try one more time.

If you want me to name names, here’s a few to start: David Ricardo, Robert Lucas, James Mirrlees, Robert Merton, Myron Scholes, William Nordhaus.

All succumbed to the ‘Ricardian Vice’ in one way or another.
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Isn’t the difference also just the sheer number of people & volume of communication?

It’s become popular in some political circles to talk about splitting candidates into ‘insiders-outsiders’ rather than ‘left-right’, with all the energy on the ‘outside’ which makes some sense.
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*should read: 'the proper object of wonder'
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constantly capable of surprising us, a world we did not program, since only such a world is the proper object of wisdom." - Mary Midgley, Beast and Man
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"Man is not adapted to live in a mirror-lined box, generating his own electric light and sending for selected images from outside when he happens to need them. Darkness and a bad smell are all that can come of that. We need the vast world, and it must be a world that does not need us; a world...
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Found it! In her Gaia: The Next Big Idea for Demos
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So many, consistently, over the last 200 years. From economists, to journalists, to ordinary people. It's deep and endemic.

Check out books by Emanuel Derman or Erica Thompson.

As George Box said: 'The good scientist... must not be like Pygmalion and fall in love with his model.'
natjdyer.bsky.social
That only holds if people never get confused between the model world and the real world - but this happens all the time.

I try to explain it, in my book, with the 'if-is distinction' or the 'pygmalion syndrome'.

More on the latter here: rwer.wordpress.com/2025/02/11/t...
The Greek myth that helps explain the failings of modern economics
from Nat Dyer Readers of this blog will be well aware of the myriad problems with the mainstream economics that has dominated university and political life for the past few decades. As Lars Syll wr…
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