Teeklin
@teeklin.bsky.social
World record holder for most migraines.
Unfortunately no visions of the future. Yet.
Unfortunately no visions of the future. Yet.
Once a TV manufacturer knows they aren't guaranteed to recoup the costs of hardware/programming in ad revenue and data sales, the smart features then are only added if it results in more sales
Meaning more dumb appliances and smart appliance features needing to be useful/add actual consumer value
Meaning more dumb appliances and smart appliance features needing to be useful/add actual consumer value
December 4, 2025 at 4:17 PM
Once a TV manufacturer knows they aren't guaranteed to recoup the costs of hardware/programming in ad revenue and data sales, the smart features then are only added if it results in more sales
Meaning more dumb appliances and smart appliance features needing to be useful/add actual consumer value
Meaning more dumb appliances and smart appliance features needing to be useful/add actual consumer value
The action to take is pressuring & demanding legislation that provides a digital right to privacy so our data can't be sold & bans things like advertising in appliances. Or core functionality in appliances being dependent on internet connection
This will benefit both smart and dumb appliance users
This will benefit both smart and dumb appliance users
December 4, 2025 at 4:17 PM
The action to take is pressuring & demanding legislation that provides a digital right to privacy so our data can't be sold & bans things like advertising in appliances. Or core functionality in appliances being dependent on internet connection
This will benefit both smart and dumb appliance users
This will benefit both smart and dumb appliance users
You can state your preferences all day long, it won't matter to the corporation what you prefer if they can make more money doing something you don't prefer.
December 4, 2025 at 3:06 PM
You can state your preferences all day long, it won't matter to the corporation what you prefer if they can make more money doing something you don't prefer.
Because pushing for dumb appliances is an easy way to get ignored and for there to be less and less dumb appliances.
Corporation doesn't care that you don't want a smart device. If they can make more money selling a smart device than a dumb one, that's what they'll do.
Take away that incentive.
Corporation doesn't care that you don't want a smart device. If they can make more money selling a smart device than a dumb one, that's what they'll do.
Take away that incentive.
December 4, 2025 at 2:17 PM
Because pushing for dumb appliances is an easy way to get ignored and for there to be less and less dumb appliances.
Corporation doesn't care that you don't want a smart device. If they can make more money selling a smart device than a dumb one, that's what they'll do.
Take away that incentive.
Corporation doesn't care that you don't want a smart device. If they can make more money selling a smart device than a dumb one, that's what they'll do.
Take away that incentive.
While this is true, he's not really arguing to try and change that bot/person's mind. He's able to reply and show others who may not have known (like me just now, for example) about the ways the organization is helping and how they feel on the issue. Something I'm happy to have just learned about!
December 4, 2025 at 2:15 PM
While this is true, he's not really arguing to try and change that bot/person's mind. He's able to reply and show others who may not have known (like me just now, for example) about the ways the organization is helping and how they feel on the issue. Something I'm happy to have just learned about!
And because what you said didn't really make a lot of sense in relation to what you were replying to, I wanted to clarify.
No one says you shouldn't have the option for cheap, dumb appliances.
Just that shaking your fist to the sky about smart appliances isn't the way to get those options.
No one says you shouldn't have the option for cheap, dumb appliances.
Just that shaking your fist to the sky about smart appliances isn't the way to get those options.
December 4, 2025 at 2:13 PM
And because what you said didn't really make a lot of sense in relation to what you were replying to, I wanted to clarify.
No one says you shouldn't have the option for cheap, dumb appliances.
Just that shaking your fist to the sky about smart appliances isn't the way to get those options.
No one says you shouldn't have the option for cheap, dumb appliances.
Just that shaking your fist to the sky about smart appliances isn't the way to get those options.
Properly legislating privacy and regulating smart appliances is also very helpful for the dumb appliance market
The reason a lot of markets have few dumb appliance versions is because the companies making them know they will recoup the cost of smart features in ad revenue and data sales
The reason a lot of markets have few dumb appliance versions is because the companies making them know they will recoup the cost of smart features in ad revenue and data sales
December 4, 2025 at 2:08 PM
Properly legislating privacy and regulating smart appliances is also very helpful for the dumb appliance market
The reason a lot of markets have few dumb appliance versions is because the companies making them know they will recoup the cost of smart features in ad revenue and data sales
The reason a lot of markets have few dumb appliance versions is because the companies making them know they will recoup the cost of smart features in ad revenue and data sales
And that's cool for you. But many people very much value the additional features of some smart appliances.
And more, properly legislating things like no advertising or data gathering on appliances means that less companies will make them as they aren't guaranteed to make back the $$ in ad revenue
And more, properly legislating things like no advertising or data gathering on appliances means that less companies will make them as they aren't guaranteed to make back the $$ in ad revenue
December 4, 2025 at 2:05 PM
And that's cool for you. But many people very much value the additional features of some smart appliances.
And more, properly legislating things like no advertising or data gathering on appliances means that less companies will make them as they aren't guaranteed to make back the $$ in ad revenue
And more, properly legislating things like no advertising or data gathering on appliances means that less companies will make them as they aren't guaranteed to make back the $$ in ad revenue
The time for being a fence-sitting centrist who has no standards for their politicians ended sometime between the first coup attempt and the first concentration camp we built
You're literally arguing to keep doing what got us here
One of us needs to get the fuck out of politics, that's for sure
You're literally arguing to keep doing what got us here
One of us needs to get the fuck out of politics, that's for sure
December 4, 2025 at 1:44 PM
The time for being a fence-sitting centrist who has no standards for their politicians ended sometime between the first coup attempt and the first concentration camp we built
You're literally arguing to keep doing what got us here
One of us needs to get the fuck out of politics, that's for sure
You're literally arguing to keep doing what got us here
One of us needs to get the fuck out of politics, that's for sure
"Hard Liberalism: When you don't hold your leaders accountable for enacting justice or enabling war crimes but instead you hold meaningless performative filibusters and then go vote with the fascists to help them enact their agendas"
December 4, 2025 at 1:42 PM
"Hard Liberalism: When you don't hold your leaders accountable for enacting justice or enabling war crimes but instead you hold meaningless performative filibusters and then go vote with the fascists to help them enact their agendas"
I'm sorry, no President can prosecute insurrectionists? Let's go ahead and ask South Korea and Brazil, eh?
No President can stop selling weapons to genocidal monsters using them to murder tens of thousands of innocent women and children? Weird how most of the fuckin world manages not to, eh?
No President can stop selling weapons to genocidal monsters using them to murder tens of thousands of innocent women and children? Weird how most of the fuckin world manages not to, eh?
December 4, 2025 at 1:39 PM
I'm sorry, no President can prosecute insurrectionists? Let's go ahead and ask South Korea and Brazil, eh?
No President can stop selling weapons to genocidal monsters using them to murder tens of thousands of innocent women and children? Weird how most of the fuckin world manages not to, eh?
No President can stop selling weapons to genocidal monsters using them to murder tens of thousands of innocent women and children? Weird how most of the fuckin world manages not to, eh?
Yes. Ultimately I don't think we have a political system in our country where we will see legislators from either party able to implement good, effective policy that goes against corporate interest until our society as a whole has enough grasp on those concepts to apply proper pressure. You're right
December 4, 2025 at 9:34 AM
Yes. Ultimately I don't think we have a political system in our country where we will see legislators from either party able to implement good, effective policy that goes against corporate interest until our society as a whole has enough grasp on those concepts to apply proper pressure. You're right
P.S. As for the "why though" there are people with ADHD who really benefit from something like a notification telling them they left the fridge open or the oven on. There are people caring for elderly parents who love to be able to see what's in their fridge when shopping and pick them up food, etc.
December 4, 2025 at 9:25 AM
P.S. As for the "why though" there are people with ADHD who really benefit from something like a notification telling them they left the fridge open or the oven on. There are people caring for elderly parents who love to be able to see what's in their fridge when shopping and pick them up food, etc.
Now it costs money for all the hardware/programming to put this stuff into the appliance, but they don't guarantee they will make back more than they spend in ads or data sales
Now, they will only put in smart appliance features in that buyers actually value and will actually sell them more product
Now, they will only put in smart appliance features in that buyers actually value and will actually sell them more product
December 4, 2025 at 9:24 AM
Now it costs money for all the hardware/programming to put this stuff into the appliance, but they don't guarantee they will make back more than they spend in ads or data sales
Now, they will only put in smart appliance features in that buyers actually value and will actually sell them more product
Now, they will only put in smart appliance features in that buyers actually value and will actually sell them more product
Right now, it's hard to find a non-smart device in a lot of spaces because they make back more in gathering data and ads than it costs them in smart device hardware. Thinking televisions, for example.
Ban data collection and advertising on appliances and suddenly, that's not the case anymore.
Ban data collection and advertising on appliances and suddenly, that's not the case anymore.
December 4, 2025 at 9:24 AM
Right now, it's hard to find a non-smart device in a lot of spaces because they make back more in gathering data and ads than it costs them in smart device hardware. Thinking televisions, for example.
Ban data collection and advertising on appliances and suddenly, that's not the case anymore.
Ban data collection and advertising on appliances and suddenly, that's not the case anymore.
It could break, but then you'd be left with just a fridge. The space it takes up is unused right now. It may cost more, but the functionality is worth it for those who want it.
It sounds like your main objection is that you don't want the features. Which is fair! But my proposal addresses that too.
It sounds like your main objection is that you don't want the features. Which is fair! But my proposal addresses that too.
December 4, 2025 at 9:24 AM
It could break, but then you'd be left with just a fridge. The space it takes up is unused right now. It may cost more, but the functionality is worth it for those who want it.
It sounds like your main objection is that you don't want the features. Which is fair! But my proposal addresses that too.
It sounds like your main objection is that you don't want the features. Which is fair! But my proposal addresses that too.
Sure! But in the conversation about smart appliances the laws only need to be in place to restrict those manufacturing the appliances
Legislating, for example, that smart appliances can't have advertising on them or that those companies can't gather user data doesn't require owners to know Infosec
Legislating, for example, that smart appliances can't have advertising on them or that those companies can't gather user data doesn't require owners to know Infosec
December 4, 2025 at 9:07 AM
Sure! But in the conversation about smart appliances the laws only need to be in place to restrict those manufacturing the appliances
Legislating, for example, that smart appliances can't have advertising on them or that those companies can't gather user data doesn't require owners to know Infosec
Legislating, for example, that smart appliances can't have advertising on them or that those companies can't gather user data doesn't require owners to know Infosec
Software and cybersecurity professionals with decades of experience have more than enough understanding about all of these issues.
In what way would something like bug disclosure still be a problem if we properly legislated it and enforced that legislation, for example?
In what way would something like bug disclosure still be a problem if we properly legislated it and enforced that legislation, for example?
December 4, 2025 at 8:35 AM
Software and cybersecurity professionals with decades of experience have more than enough understanding about all of these issues.
In what way would something like bug disclosure still be a problem if we properly legislated it and enforced that legislation, for example?
In what way would something like bug disclosure still be a problem if we properly legislated it and enforced that legislation, for example?
Considering the comment that you replied to, what would actively be worse about a smart appliance in a world where we had regulation that prevented them from gathering data, advertising, or losing functionality when they don't have a data connection?
December 4, 2025 at 7:53 AM
Considering the comment that you replied to, what would actively be worse about a smart appliance in a world where we had regulation that prevented them from gathering data, advertising, or losing functionality when they don't have a data connection?
Man was openly funding a genocide while hiding his inability to do the job
Best president of our lifetimes? He watched the previous president attempt a coup and then let a goddamn Republican head the FBI to investigate that and a spineless piece of shit AG drag his feet prosecuting it ffs
Best president of our lifetimes? He watched the previous president attempt a coup and then let a goddamn Republican head the FBI to investigate that and a spineless piece of shit AG drag his feet prosecuting it ffs
December 4, 2025 at 7:25 AM
Man was openly funding a genocide while hiding his inability to do the job
Best president of our lifetimes? He watched the previous president attempt a coup and then let a goddamn Republican head the FBI to investigate that and a spineless piece of shit AG drag his feet prosecuting it ffs
Best president of our lifetimes? He watched the previous president attempt a coup and then let a goddamn Republican head the FBI to investigate that and a spineless piece of shit AG drag his feet prosecuting it ffs
It's cool that you don't need or want that. Some people do. And there is nothing wrong enjoying those features which improve people's lives.
Even if they don't improve yours.
Even if they don't improve yours.
December 4, 2025 at 7:11 AM
It's cool that you don't need or want that. Some people do. And there is nothing wrong enjoying those features which improve people's lives.
Even if they don't improve yours.
Even if they don't improve yours.
Slave owners had every right to own other human beings too
What people have the rights to do through the law and what is the morally correct choice are quite often very different
No one is disputing that they have the right to do whatever they want on their platform
It's just a shitty thing to do
What people have the rights to do through the law and what is the morally correct choice are quite often very different
No one is disputing that they have the right to do whatever they want on their platform
It's just a shitty thing to do
December 4, 2025 at 6:44 AM
Slave owners had every right to own other human beings too
What people have the rights to do through the law and what is the morally correct choice are quite often very different
No one is disputing that they have the right to do whatever they want on their platform
It's just a shitty thing to do
What people have the rights to do through the law and what is the morally correct choice are quite often very different
No one is disputing that they have the right to do whatever they want on their platform
It's just a shitty thing to do