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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 15h

"The media" isn't without sin (nor is it a monolith).

I think of Diana when DHS whines how ICE agents are afraid of being "doxxed."

Burly macho actors with guns, violently assaulting innocent people on govt behalf?

They couldn't handle 1% of what this girl went through.

SHE deserved none of it.

When the media chased Princess Diana to her death, it was forced to look in the mirror - Poynter

Princess Diana’s death was not only a moment of tremendous grief for those who loved and admired her. It was also a reckoning for the press.

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 15h

Interesting! Do you know if the grenades made to fire from launchers work the same way, or do they have pre-drilled holes? And same question about triple-chasers. (I thought those were all drilled on bottom or between segments, but realizing now maybe not.)

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 15h

Video is helpful, thanks!

What's odd to me is the hole isn't there in the marketing photo. So as a "flameless" device, how is a hole opening up? Chemical burns through? Pre-punctured inside and explodes away?

Flameless Tri-Chamber CS Grenade - Defense Technology

The design of the Tri-Chamber Flameless CS Grenade allows the contents to burn within an internal can and disperse the agent safely with reduced risk of fire. The grenade is designed primarily for ind...

www.defense-technology.com

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 16h

Yes! Sold here, says for indoor but can be used for crowd control: www.defense-technology.com/product/flam...

But I'm wondering how the hole is made. Seen here too, so not unique to this incident: www.chemicalweaponsresearch.com/munitions/dt...

Flameless Tri-Chamber CS Grenade | Chemical Weapons Research Center

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 16h

Spotted in this week's @poynterinstitute.bsky.social newsletter ...

"how it feels when your editor is in the google doc while you're still writing" over a photo of someone in a Michael Myers mask peering out from behind a bush

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 16h

I've looked at a lot of photos of used "less lethal" munitions in Chicago, Portland and LA. Haven't seen many holes like this. (I'm less familiar with this specific grenade-style tri-chamber.)

Anyone ideas on what causes hole? Part of discharge mechanism? Malfunction? Damaged after already spent?

Dave Byrnes @djbyrnes1.bsky.social · 3d

Locals, CPD, press, a few protestors and legal observers remain on scene but the feds are gone. Air is still foul from all the chemicals. One protestor found one of the gas cannisters feds were deploying into the crowd

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 16h

OMG, this @djbyrnes1.bsky.social thread! Great play-by-play of yesterday's hearing in Chicago Headline Club case against DHS.

Similar to LA Press Club case that led to federal injunction, judges are NOT amused by DHS lawyers.

Highlighting these ::chef's kiss:: back-to-back combos, but read it all!

Govt. atty getting into the specific elements of the complaint involving use of force. He says DHS' use of force policy is designed to protect people's lives and constitutionality.

"You can't fire a tear gas cannister at someone's head... unless lethal force is justified," he says.

Side note: that tear gas line hits different after Saturday tbh, seeing as a federal agent briefly aimed a gas can launcher straight at me during the 40th/Kedzie protest.

He didn't shoot & I don't know if it was because I had my press jacket on or because people were already running from the scene.

Def. atty also raising the concern of ICE agents (federal employees who like to wear masks) getting "doxxed."

I'm floored. Ellis essentially just told the govt. to suck it up. Cites incidents of judges getting doxxed.

"It's unfortunately part of the cost of doing business as a public servant," she says.

She adds that violations of ICE agents' rights can't be addressed if they won't identify themselves.

She concedes it can be "scary" to be followed home or harassed, but adds,

"That doesn't mean you get to do this job and be anonymous."

"There needs to be some way to identify them," Ellis continues, asking if feds have badge number or any other identifying mark for people who may be abused by immigration agents.

Def. atty continues his argument, says "violent terrorist organizations" are trying to doxx agents.

This prompts open laughter in the courtroom.

"Well, I think we have a different idea of what's going on in Chicago," Ellis tells the def. atty, who is appearing remotely.

Back to Jon Loevy for his rebuttal, who argues there is no ongoing "revolution in the streets" in Chicago.

Says instead it's "soccer moms" yelling at ICE agents and "skinny kids" protesting.

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 17h

Yikes! Any idea what made the hole?!? Who posted original photo?

That one in the hand is CS instead of OC, but same general idea. CS is tear gas and dissipates a lot faster. OC is pepper spray and you'd want to remove all exterior clothing before going inside your vehicle or home after. Nasty.

Flameless Tri-Chamber CS Grenade - Defense Technology

The design of the Tri-Chamber Flameless CS Grenade allows the contents to burn within an internal can and disperse the agent safely with reduced risk of fire. The grenade is designed primarily for ind...

www.defense-technology.com

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 17h

Thanks! Is that canister from this day/incident where DHS/ICE gassed Chicago PD? www.reddit.com/r/50501/comm...

From the 50501 community on Reddit: Chicago police officers peppered sprayed by ice.

Explore this post and more from the 50501 community

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 19h

Amen! Also, it's helpful to get images of the spent canisters to ID chemical agent -- but ONLY if fully spent and safe to approach.

I posted a related thread about Portland here which has some more background. I ended up getting very mixed reports on the chemical experience/symptoms.

Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 3d

Journalists in Portland: Try to get photos of gas canisters/munitions, either spent on ground or still carried by DHS. ONLY IF SAFE. Use long lens. Risks unknown, don’t approach.

This green smoke isn’t super common. Raised concerns in 2020. Documenting DHS munitions may help accountability later.

Alex Baumhardt @alexbaumhardt.bsky.social · 3d

Federal forces inexplicably tried to move all protestors out a city block using chemical irritants.

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unraveled @unraveledpress.com · 23h

Some folks have reported experiencing extended nausea and dizziness since being tear gassed in Brighton Park on Saturday. General reminder to seek medical care even if you think you can tough it out—document it all and start a paper trail. You never know if you may need it.

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 1d

@juliachanb.bsky.social You may appreciate how this blew up almost a year after we were posting about it! bsky.app/profile/adam...

Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 4d

How bad are tariffs going?

I paid for $32 of shaving cream from Canada. Unique stuff I’ve used for years, nothing like it in US. Small family business.

UPS guy came to my door today with box and said I have to pay additional $120 before he can hand it to me.

That makes it 5x more expensive!!! 🤯

Screenshot of message from UPS:

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 1d

The Canadian Supreme Court has a mascot?!?

What’s the SCOTUS mascot? Wrong answers only.

Raffi Melkonian @rmfifthcircuit.bsky.social · 1d

My real concern is whether Amicus, the mascot of the Canadian Supreme Court, has also been compelled to change robes.

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Sean Beckner-Carmitchel @acatwithnews.bsky.social · 1d

New for The Ten Four:

A Los Angeles County court has accepted a plea disposition in the case of Eyal Shalom, who deployed chemical irritants on Mirror Media Group journalist Dolores Quintana while engaging protesters at UCLA.

latenfour.com/2025/10/06/m...

Man Who Attacked Journalist At 2024 UCLA Attacks Escapes Prison Time

By Sean Beckner-Carmitchel Man Who Attacked Journalist At 2024 UCLA Attacks Escapes Prison Time LOS ANGELES — A Los Angeles County court has accepted a plea disposition in the case of Eyal Shalom, …

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 1d

Chicago Headline Club (et al.) just sued DHS for attacking journalists covering ICE protests. Similar to successful LA Press Club case.

DHS arguments so bad they're getting laughed at IN COURT.

Decorum matters in court, but this is fair. Make clown arguments, expect people to treat you as a clown.

Dave Byrnes @djbyrnes1.bsky.social · 1d

Def. atty continues his argument, says "violent terrorist organizations" are trying to doxx agents.

This prompts open laughter in the courtroom.

"Well, I think we have a different idea of what's going on in Chicago," Ellis tells the def. atty, who is appearing remotely.

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Dave Byrnes @djbyrnes1.bsky.social · 1d

@unraveledpress.com & other press have been threatened, shot with less-lethals and arrested while reporting on federal immigration activities in Chicagoland and on the resulting protests at Broadview.

I'm now at a hearing asking the federal court to rein ICE & co in. I'll let you know how it goes.

unraveled @unraveledpress.com · 1d

Well, yeah, we're suing ICE.

This wasn't really a hard decision. As little faith as we have in institutions, we recognize the value of drawing visible lines in the sand. We drew ours personally a while ago, but better late than never.

May every protester be freed and may this occupation end.

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Meredith Whittaker @meredithmeredith.bsky.social · 2d

📣 Germany's close to reversing its opposition to mass surveillance & private message scanning, & backing the Chat Control bill. This could end private comms-& Signal-in the EU.

Time's short and they're counting on obscurity: please let German politicians know how horrifying their reversal would be.

Signal @signal.org · 4d

We are alarmed by reports that Germany is on the verge of a catastrophic about-face, reversing its longstanding and principled opposition to the EU’s Chat Control proposal which, if passed, could spell the end of the right to privacy in Europe. signal.org/blog/pdfs/ge...

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 2d

From Israel-Gaza to First Amendment, outstanding and nuanced perspective by @seth-stern.bsky.social. Bravo.

Epitomizes F. Scott Fitzgerald quote, "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function."

Freedom of the Press Foundation @freedom.press · 2d

The hate crime charge against Alexa Wilkinson for photographing vandalism of the New York Times building is a dangerous precedent, no matter what you think of Wilkinson.

Journalist or not, photography isn’t a hate crime

Gatekeeping over hate crime charges misses the forest for the trees

freedom.press

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 2d

Portland level = Expert

Seriously, this should be Exhibit A in every court filing from @tinakotek.bsky.social, @gavinnewsom.bsky.social or anyone else objecting to National Guard use.

What judge could take them seriously after seeing this?

competentposter @competentposter.bsky.social · 3d

wizard frog is insane

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 2d

Portland level = Expert

Seriously, this should be Exhibit A in every court filing from @tinakotek.bsky.social, @gavinnewsom.bsky.social or anyone else objecting to National Guard use.

What judge could take them seriously after seeing this?

competentposter @competentposter.bsky.social · 3d

wizard frog is insane

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 2d

Ostensibly and colloquially, a chemical weapon is intended to seriously hurt/kill while a chemical irritant is more to chase people away or briefly incapacitate. It's usually problematic to test these on humans or animals, so without good longitudinal studies the line's just too fuzzy with some.

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 2d

Y/TY/B! (Yes, thank you, and ... bookmarked!)

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 2d

You rock! 😀

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 3d

Perfect, thank you!!!

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Adam Rose @adamrose.bsky.social · 3d

Excellent question. I know more about tactics and less about chemistry, so don’t want to generalize. A lot may depend on exactly what they used. If we know make/model used the manufacturer guidance is typically online.

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