Andy Gowers
@exbox.bsky.social
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Also he apparently took 7 months to decide to plead guilty. A plea bargain for a lesser sentence in return for some dirt on co defendants?
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That’s why I’ve always thought that Starmer will win again despite the current polls.
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Yes you're certainly in the wrong place.
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Xhitter is over there >>>>>
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Agreed. But it’s not going to happen until Reform Ltd implodes or slumps back to single digits in the polls and the Conservatives once more become a pro EU party.
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Agreed. I hope to see us rejoin in my lifetime but it’s a good 20 years away, and longer still if Reform Ltd seizes power.
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The EU will not permit us to rejoin and so it’s a pointless exercise, and for as long as Reform Ltd continues to trade, we will not be allowed to to rejoin. It’s not our decision.
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Not going to happen until both the Conservatives and Reform Ltd either cease to exist or become pro European along with the Mail, Telegraph and S*n.
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I'm glad you're not going to waste both of our time with your pie in the sky hopes. If you think that all of the EU27 would meekly assent to our demands I'm afraid I can't assist further.
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In your view we should simply inform the EU of our intention to join and ask them to make the necessary arrangements?
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Then you’ll be aware that the EU requires cross party support for membership in all candidate countries.
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You're missing out a step - we can't just inform the EU that we intend to join. They have to agree, and with Reform Ltd ahead in the polls and threatening to undo any deals with the EU, they will refuse to engage with Starmer. I want to rejoin the EU as much as anyone but it's 20 years away.
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I don't think it's a question of guts - if Starmer did as you asked and went all in on rejoin and lost the election to Reform Ltd as a result, would we be any better off? The reality is that it will take 20 years before we rejoin, and that's if nothing else happens in the meantime.
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Any sane person is upset about the Manchester antisemitic murder. It’s not necessary to follow a particular faith to be revolted.
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I’m sorry but defining someone by their ethnicity is the problem.
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I’d be obliged if you could provide at least one example to illustrate your point.
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Explain further, if you’re able.
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I’m struggling to see the relevance, sorry.
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Are you normally this rude to strangers that you’ve never met or should I feel singled out?
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Keep it classy, Chris.
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I would consider the actions of the Saudi government to be separate to those of the arsonist. In a similar vein I consider the actions of the Israeli government to be disconnected from the actions of any UK citizen. Forgive me because I’m clearly missing some nuance.
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This is becoming a little tedious, if you’ll forgive me. I came here to learn and I’ve learned a great deal.
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Au contraire. I came here to learn and I’ve learned a great deal.
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I seek to learn and I’ve learned a great deal.