Nic B Foss
@nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
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Anaesthesia. Research in perioperative medicine, haemodynamics. Denmark. Here for medical talk and the state of the world.
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Never give atropine to opioid induced bradycardia - it is completely harmless
nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
Yes again - but whether we are actuallt masking or preventing is not really solved by this - delirum seems to be triggered by inflammation or cerebral ischaemia...Both will give a NE response
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nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
Does anyything that sedates a patient actually prevent delirium, or are we simply masking symptoms of hyperactive delirium?
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Postoperative delirium is a common complication following cardiac surgery.

This Bayesian network meta-analysis of RCTs assessed the effect of pharmacological interventions.

It found dexmedetomidine with melatonin was the most effective.

#AnSky #MedSky

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Australians putting up our hands re anaphylaxis with rocuronium.
We see in multiple times a year just at my institution.
We are all absolute experts at diagnosis and management.
I have assisted in at least 6 in the past 10 years.
The rapid administration of adrenaline saves lives.
a woman is waving her hand in front of a purple background and saying `` oh pick me '' .
ALT: a woman is waving her hand in front of a purple background and saying `` oh pick me '' .
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nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
Alf is far inferior to Remi for this. I mainly caution that if you do not want to give sufficient dose of remi and propofol, then you should relax. Besides this we dont really see problems with it, and we train a lot of new doctors every year
nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
It is about whether you think you can anaesthetize the patient, or whether you need the patients stress to control haemodynamics.....😊
nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
Well, it has been shown that haemodynamic max out at 5, you can give 20 without extra effect, since it works via sympatholysis. Bradycardia and hypotension is not a problem if you have a vasopressor. The key is being proficient at haemodynamics.
nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
Exactly, as I wrote: This discussion started with stating NMB is never a free lunch, neither when discussing awareness or postop. pulmonary complications - NMB is one of the main risks for both. And I have not even started on anaphylaxis to both NMB and Suggammadex
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nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
Bolus. It is the slow infusion that gives rigidity.
nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
No. You get rigidity with low dose. Given at this dose together with propofol I have yet to see it.
nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
I am not advocating this in extreme or complex cases. You are making a strawman argumentation here
nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
I am not advocating it in all patients, but in the majority it is quite safe. If you read the meta analysis I linked it does you all the data on safety, including a lot of emergency patients. But feel free not to try.
nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
I can't remember when it was necessary. With VL we just give on the Remi.
nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
Yes, but of no consequence. Low HR is associated with positive outcome in all our data. I think our fear is related to outdated methods of anaesthesia
nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
Oh well, we have not had anymore failed intubationse, and it has been standard practice at the department and most of denmark for many years. The comment on vomting is ridiculous, and the bradycardia issue is outdated - and should not be considered an issue for anyone versed in haemodynamics.
nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
One thing to reflect upon is that you have ceiling level sympatholysis in most with 5 mcg/kg remi and dose can be increased further with little effect - as high as 20 mcg/kg has been used in studies on haemodynamics. So if I am in doubt I go higher dose....
nicolaibangfoss.bsky.social
It means many inductions are closer to RSI, because there is no waiting time and thus no need for ventilation. If you are used to maintaining cardiovascular tone with high sympathetic activity, BP/HR will drop a bit more with this technique and we ofte use vasopressors.