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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 3h

Maybe someone should actually propose this amendment, wonder if a less obscure name might increase number of votes and nominations

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 3h

Or just spell out „semi-professional magazine”, not like it’s longer than „best dramatic presentation, short form”

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 3h

to anyone who's not already an insider, "semiprozine" sounds like a pharmaceutical product

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 3h

to anyone who's not already an insider, "semiprozine" sounds like a pharmaceutical product

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 3h

yeah, not saying you are doing it, but it's something that happens quite a lot

to be fair, non-Jewish Polish-Americans also sometimes speak of Poland as if it was not a real contemporary thing but the only "Old Country" of their grandparents so might just be an American thing generally

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 3h

Ya lo compré (edición polaca, aunque también hablo español) pero todavía no lo he leído

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 3h

(and like, the actually existing contemporary Polish Jews, even if there isn't that many o them, generally don't like being erased from the discussion, which is what usually happens when people from outside Poland talk about Polish Jews as if they were not a thing anymore)

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

tbh the biggest barrier when it comes to semiprozine category votes is that you need to be an insider to even know what the hell a semiprozine is; I only voted in this category at all for the first time this year

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

tbh the biggest barrier when it comes to semiprozine category votes is that you need to be an insider to even know what the hell a semiprozine is; I only voted in this category at all for the first time this year

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

The price is not *that* low for someone in Eastern Europe but yeah, given how extensive the Hugo Voter Packets are, I still keep getting supporting membership at least.

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

(I don't want to whitewash the ugly parts of Polish history certainly, but also don't want to erase the opposite)

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

And nowadays definitely only the most extreme antisemites would dispute the Polishness of Lem or Tuwim.

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

I mean, I get what you're saying, but also it's more complicated both among Jews and among non-Jewish Poles.

Piłsudski, which you mentioned, was not an antisemite, for one, although unfortunately his Sanacja successors ended up barely distinguishable from Endecja in the end.

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

Tuwim's manifesto was targeted at not just fellow Polish Jews but also at fellow Polish anti-fascists regardless of ethnicity and religion.

Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

"A Pole – because I have taken over from the Poles quite a few of their national faults. A Pole – because my hatred of Polish Fascists is greater than my hatred of Fascists of other nationalities. And I consider that particular point as a strong mark of my nationality." - J. Tuwim, "We, Polish Jews"

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

Sure, but it's worth noting that among non-Jewish Poles there were always not just antisemites but those who supported minority rights (and who considered Polish Jews fellow Poles).

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

Rotblat called himself "a Pole with a British passport", for one.

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

I mean, there are Jews that remained in Poland after WW2 and even after 1968 (and remain in Poland now), and even quite a few of those who ended up in exile still identified primarily as Polish (e.g. Józef Rotblat).

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

I'm not very patriotic but the above essay by Tuwim does manage to stir up some patriotic feelings in me, as a fellow Polish hater of Polish fascists.

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

"Above all, a Pole – because I want to be"

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

"A Pole – because I have taken over from the Poles quite a few of their national faults. A Pole – because my hatred of Polish Fascists is greater than my hatred of Fascists of other nationalities. And I consider that particular point as a strong mark of my nationality." - J. Tuwim, "We, Polish Jews"

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

see also the moving "We, Polish Jews" by Julian Tuwim:

Brody, Ukraine (Pages 53-58)

www.jewishgen.org

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

scale from Stanisław Lem to Menachem Begin

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

that said, many Polish Jews very much did and do consider themselves Poles (while others didn't, of course); there has historically been a whole range of stances from "Pole of Jewish descent" through "Pole of Mosaic faith", "equally Pole and Jew", to just Jews who happened to be born in Poland

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

that said, many Polish Jews very much did and do consider themselves Poles (while others didn't, of course); there has historically been a whole range of stances from "Pole of Jewish descent" through "Pole of Mosaic faith", "equally Pole and Jew", to just Jews who happened to be born in Poland

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Paweł Ausir Dembowski @ausir.bsky.social · 4h

these people don't mean "living in Poland", they mean the camps

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