hakwan lau
@hakwan.bsky.social
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neuroscientist in Korea (co-director of IBS-CNIR) interested in how neuroimaging (e.g. fMRI or widefield optical imaging) can facilitate closed-loop causal interventions (e.g. neurofeedback, patterned stimulations). https://tinyurl.com/hakwan
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hakwan.bsky.social
i have uploaded this preprint a while back, but hadn't promoted it directly here. in this piece i explain why i can no longer recommend trainees to participate in my former home field.

The End of Conscioussness - osf.io/preprints/ps...

but i've learned a lot. thank you for everything.

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tsawallis.bsky.social
Check out this lovely new paper by the inimitable @emilya-izzeddin.bsky.social ! We examine how humans use natural image statistics to judge similarity.
emilya-izzeddin.bsky.social
The final bit of work from my PhD just got published at JOV! We looked at similarity judgements made for naturalistic image patches, and whether these are predicted by simple image statistics… (spoiler: yep!)

Link to paper: doi.org/10.1167/jov....

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Low-level features predict perceived similarity for naturalistic images | JOV | ARVO Journals
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hakwan.bsky.social
i dunno. *maybe*?

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hakwan.bsky.social
maybe :-)

i've always thought, in science, we make sure things are almost certainly right, & then we say maybe.

but this is too old fashioned these days. we should maybe just come up with some possibilities & promote them hard (!!)

or maybe not.
hakwan.bsky.social
but chemistry computes. chemical synapses *compute* differently depending on their biochemical properties. for subcomputational functional stuff, you're left with the likes of 'non-representational orgasmic feelings', whatever they are
hakwan.bsky.social
i wonder, if the field hasn't become so 'diverse' as of late, re: rigor vs speculations, to speak of 'realistic possibilities' like political manifestos.... what would this paper be like

but i do appreciate the very careful qualifications throughout

we can go back to boring experiments now

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hakwan.bsky.social
i predict: some may try to shut down synapses, & find that, as *theoretically predicted*, it changes consciousness!!

sadly it may fool more ppl than u think

but anyway, shoutout to my old friend @neddo.bsky.social for waking me up from my slumber. i don't get to read C papers often these days

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hakwan.bsky.social
maybe :-)

i've always thought, in science, we make sure things are almost certainly right, & then we say maybe.

but this is too old fashioned these days. we should maybe just come up with some possibilities & promote them hard (!!)

or maybe not.
hakwan.bsky.social
so, in sum, it rather confirms my two suspicions, that 1) biopsychism may be an interesting possibility (so is religion, to some), but is pretty much a scientific deadend, at least for now, & 2) the field is overall going exactly where i worry it is going -

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hakwan.bsky.social
i have uploaded this preprint a while back, but hadn't promoted it directly here. in this piece i explain why i can no longer recommend trainees to participate in my former home field.

The End of Conscioussness - osf.io/preprints/ps...

but i've learned a lot. thank you for everything.

🧠📈
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hakwan.bsky.social
& just to be clear, synaptic circuits vs non-chemical signaling surely give distinct computational properties. so all these seems to be just alluding to some vague possibility that there may be computationally identical circuits realized by distinct bio mechanisms that happen to also support C

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hakwan.bsky.social
or maybe anesthetized brains too? or maybe not? how do we ever tell?

so i liked it that the piece is a lot sharper than other biopsychist papers i've read

but it feels a lot less useful for generating experiments, compared to Ned's other work

& w/o experiments we all know where we're headed

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hakwan.bsky.social
how do we then rule out that e.g. binocular rivalry isn't constant phenomenology w/ fluctuating access? the synapses are always there, maybe it is only cognitive access that fluctuates?

so blindsight maybe phenomally conscious too, just that the computational part is gone?

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hakwan.bsky.social
specifically they are meant to *maybe* support the kind of functional but not fundamentally computational mechanisms for C.

but how exactly?? like in other attempts at arguing for biopsychism, i fail to find a plausible mechanistic explanation

but alright. problem is....

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hakwan.bsky.social
& many of us disagree. but it's ok.

i'm more confused by the new stuff on synapses & sponges etc

so the TL:DR seems to be: we have synapses, some early animals do, & some don't. it is not *totally* clear what are the functional advantages of having synapses, therefore, *maybe* they support C?

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hakwan.bsky.social
this part isn't clear. it feels like we're back to something like those 'orgasmic feelings' w/o representation content again. sorry for the example but just trying to follow the exact literature....

so these are supposed to functional yet not computational, alright

fitelson.org/prosem/block...

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hakwan.bsky.social
but ok maybe the last part isn't so important. maybe there are subcomputational biological mechanisms somehow, which are functionally identified. so they may even have behavioral consequences (?), but are NOT computation somehow.

but what are they exactly? how do they *work* in the brain?

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hakwan.bsky.social
i agree. i don't think i ever gonna go down a level. it was Ned's counter argument though.
hakwan.bsky.social
i mean, at the very bottom we have physical laws, not mechanisms relevant for bio explanations anymore. & Ned's example of gravity not being fundamentally computational is exactly there

& bio isn't just macro-physics. evo history matters, & it needs its own vocab

www.jstor.org/stable/30378...

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The Autonomy of Biology: The Position of Biology Among the Sciences on JSTOR
Ernst Mayr, The Autonomy of Biology: The Position of Biology Among the Sciences, The Quarterly Review of Biology, Vol. 71, No. 1 (Mar., 1996), pp. 97-106
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hakwan.bsky.social
but bio mechanisms are often considered fundmantally computational, espcially in evolutionary contexts.

he says ok, maybe, but we can always go down to a lower level of description where things are not fundamentally computational

i'm not sure. if we go low enough, are they still relevant?

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hakwan.bsky.social
but Ned is, as ever, a cut above. for a start he makes clear he is NOT talking about a-functional substrates, i.e. bio stuff that can't be identified with purely functional descriptions. that would be as unscientific as denial of evolution, to my mind.

he is talking about biological mechanisms

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hakwan.bsky.social
similar articles have generally been disappointing to me. they say: yeah maybe, just maybe, something like this bio thing or that, not sure which, maybe not totally irrelevant, *somehow*

i mean, whatever man. as i said elsewhere, it just feels like magicalist thinking

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hakwan.bsky.social
i agree w/ ‪@sussillodavid.bsky.social‬ that this so-called biopsychism just feels like magicalist thinking. besides the claims that 'maybe' some bio sauce is needed, i just don't hear any concrete arguments as to why. sure maybe we need to take into account survival contexts to understand the ...
hakwan.bsky.social
this paper takes me by surprise a bit. of coz, we all know Ned's been thinking along these lines for decades: philpapers.org/rec/BLOBVC
but is he really gonna seriously publish a new paper on this now, given all the AI hype & debates re: how unscientific some popular views on C are these days?

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dlevenstein.bsky.social
The Wu Tsai Institute at Yale is hiring another faculty member in neurocomputation. Come work with us in a growing community at the interface of neuroscience and AI!

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📣 WTI is hiring faculty positions! Are you interested in advancing our understanding of the brain + how it gives rise to cognition?

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hakwan.bsky.social
arxiv.org/abs/2509.251...

"compositional ability generalizes [and]... transfers to a different target task... RL fundamentally changes the reasoning behaviors of the [LLMs]. In contrast, next-token training with the same data yields none of these findings."

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From $f(x)$ and $g(x)$ to $f(g(x))$: LLMs Learn New Skills in RL by Composing Old Ones
Does RL teach LLMs genuinely new skills, or does it merely activate existing ones? This question lies at the core of ongoing debates about the role of RL in LLM post-training. On one side, strong empi...
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