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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 8h

Yeah I feel like I'm going insane.
I'm not gaining anything from being here anyways.

Peace. See you all in a week.

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 9h

I'm not even sure I understand what he's trying to say.

My brain is pudding tonight.

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 9h

What is this about now? 😭

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 9h

I don't think it's that bleak, but I'm not gonna police people's feelings on the matter, I'm not a US citizen and it wouldn't be right.

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 9h

If by "touch the stove" we mean "make people uncomfortable because burger taxi expensive", then sure.

But I don't know if it's worth throwing vulnerable people under the bus like that.

Especially when we have no reason to assume it will flip voters.

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 9h

Yeah but... Like, let's be real, the Dems aren't out here trying to shield klansmen from the gutting of the safety net.

The people who are gonna die are poor people, many of them minorities, and only maybe 1/3rd of them Trump voters.

White, comfortable voters will be fine :/

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 9h

I don't have anything against you, by the way.

It's not like this shit is easy.

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 9h

I don't know what the right answer is either, but there is literally no proof that the *only* way to defeat fascists is to throw people under the bus.

There are other ways to win this.

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 9h

And instead people are Sephiroth-posting about how we should be ready to make "hard sacrifices" (read: other people's lives), and about how "hard times create strong men".

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 9h

Like, people today are acting as if the Dems fighting for the ACA is the only shot they'll ever have to save more people, which just isn't true. This admin is weak when pushed. If the Dems win on this, there could very well be an opening to pummel the GOP further.

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 9h

It feels awful, in my opinion, because it's capitulating to fascism. It's clearly subscribing to the fascist model of politics: prod people into compliance.

Which is why I think it sucks.

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GHOULLIKEHELLMACHINE @golikehellmachine.com · 9h

republicans are consistently extremely vulnerable on health care, if dems can force a concession on ACA subsidies *in a CR*, the next round becomes another loser health care fight and dems can up the stakes with medicaid

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GHOULLIKEHELLMACHINE @golikehellmachine.com · 9h

i feel like everyone discussing this on either side is doing so as if the CR is the only bite at the apple dems will get when it comes to appropriations, which is not true

Kevin Collins @kwcollins.bsky.social · 1d

If Dems win the standoff and get their policy demands, yes they will have substantively helped millions of Americans (a good thing, to be clear), but also they will have kept Republicans from a self-inflicted wound in upcoming elections

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 9h

Thinking that harm reduction is wrong because it won't stop the inevitable is the kind of stuff we used to clown wrecker leftists for.

Nothing against you, I just think it's odd.

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 9h

But you're not describing an actual person!

No GOP voter thinks to themselves "Yeah, the Dems will fix this, we all secretly know this, everything's fine". This is just slander we throw at GOP people but like, nobody actually thinks like this!

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 10h

Many of these people probably didn't even vote for Trump, and there's no way to tally which rural death was a Kamala or a Trump voter, anyway.

I just don't see how this is anything other than collective punishment.

Especially when the media can very easily flip this as a Dem blunder anyway!

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 10h

I do not see how a poor person (most likely a racial or sexual minority) from a rural community in a red state risking their life or dying is going to flip white, comfortable GOP voters.

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 10h

So if you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, why bank on people suffering?

Why shouldn't the Dems fight to save the ACA?

Why should they drop it to get an edge over Trump if the public is so fickle that it's never gonna make a difference?

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 10h

So you think there is *no way* the media won't spin this into "DEMOCRATS ARE KILLING THE POOR WHITES"?

Really?

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 10h

I at least appreciate you not being a total dick about this.

Thanks.

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The Fig Economy @figgityfigs.bsky.social · 11h

We figure that the Democratic base isn’t gonna be grossed the fuck out to the point of staying home by watching their own side refuse to help people in the middle of a pandemic to eke out advantage in an election?

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The Fig Economy @figgityfigs.bsky.social · 11h

Do we send notices to the hundreds of thousands dead and jobless and thank them for their noble sacrifice in defeating Trump in 2024?

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The Fig Economy @figgityfigs.bsky.social · 11h

So when we take Congress in the midterms which aid should we refuse to give to people so that we forestall the bad consequences we know are downstream of not helping them?

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The Fig Economy @figgityfigs.bsky.social · 11h

Quote tweets and replies to this are fucking deranged. This site is built on people who don’t understand that they are living in a fantasy world but they’re definitely living in a fantasy world.

Jake @jakeythesnakey.bsky.social · 1d

So, should Dems have spiked COVID relief and stimulus in 2020 until after the election when they took a trifecta?

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vanagonfan @vanagonfan.bsky.social · 10h

Well, I appreciate that.

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